People Still Hold Balls
E35

People Still Hold Balls

Another week, another episode.

And I was gonna, oh, sorry.

Sorry.

I just needed a little pump up music.

Do you need a little pump up music?

Need some energy after this week?

Yeah.

Beat down toe up toe.

You know I was gonna start
this episode off by saying.

Oh man, this week's been a doozy.

Mm-hmm.

But you know what I realized?

I dunno, because you haven't done,
I've realized, I'm pretty sure we've

started like nine outta 10 episodes
saying, man, this week's been a doozy.

Life is tough with smalls,
littles, whatever you wanna

call them, children life.

Life is tough.

This feels like a scramble and
you don't know what you're saying.

I do know what I'm saying.

Okay.

Do you know what you're saying?

No, no, don't.

I'm tired.

You're very tired.

I'm glad you dressed up for the episode.

Thank you.

But you know what, it's, I'm sure our
four rabid fans will, will love the

effort that you've been putting into this.

I, you know, I think about it as like,
when I wear my hat, it's like cute and

ironic, but your hat's just to cry for
men's hair dye to cover up the grays.

Oh, okay.

We're bringing out the claws early.

Alison

y. Okay.

I've got a lot of grays for good reason.

School Ali's back.

You cracked yourself up on that one.

Oh no.

Ladies and gentlemen, you have witnessed
when Ali finds herself the most funny.

Which is all the time she snorts
when she laughs really hard and

she's cracking herself up right now.

I cannot cut this out.

No, we are definitely
not cutting this out.

You wanted to make fun of my
grays, then you just self roasted.

This is fantastic.

All right.

This is, I know this is
episode two of season two.

This is my hilarious wife, Alison.

I'm will.

Oops, this is no one asked us.

Oh, okay.

Let's do it.

All right, Alison.

Okay.

We took an extended break
before jumping into this.

You're still laughing.

Why don't we just, let's just, I'm good.

I'm good.

Let get it together.

Okay.

And I think we owe everyone a, a recap.

We ended, we ended last episode telling
everyone that we were headed to the grand.

Oh yeah.

Why don't we just give
a quick little recap.

It was great.

We were real worried going in.

We were, um, we've not ever, um.

I've done a Are you crying right now?

Not crying.

Are you literally having tears from
how funny you thought you were?

First of all?

I'm tired and so, you know, I can't stop.

This is true.

This is true.

Okay.

Are you hitting silly season?

I think so.

Uh, this was our first trip like going.

Out of town.

Big trip, correct?

Correct.

Just you and I and all of the children.

Mm-hmm.

And so we were all staying in one
hotel room and, you know, we're pretty

big on establishing sleep habits.

And let's be honest, very big.

Um, sharing one hotel room, uh, with
three small children is not like.

Anything that they've ever
done and would be used to.

So it was kinda like a ooh,
real worried going into it.

Are you gonna do this?

Real worried.

Real worried.

So, yeah.

But we're here to happily report, happily
report, I mean, ecstatic to report.

I mean, flying colors, like if
I do say so myself, truly a.

Flawless.

I mean, that might be
a monumental vacation.

Like I think I will, I feel like
we need to stop bragging around it.

That's true.

Or something.

Something's gonna happen is gonna happen.

So, but it was a wonderful,
amazing trip to give us us memories

for ever, and it was wonderful.

I mean, truly so good was awesome.

I, I don't wanna wax
poetic on it for forever.

I know.

Same.

But I do want to hit some highlights.

Do it from the trip highlight.

And some low lights.

I mean yeah, low light number one, kids
highlight, kids did great sleeping.

They were awesome.

I mean, Wilson, our
3-year-old, slept with me.

It was boys in one bed, girls, our
6-year-old with Ali in the other bed.

Mm-hmm.

And Davis slept in a pack and
play inside of a blackout tent.

Yep.

He did fantastic.

Right.

Um, all the kids did great.

Mm-hmm.

Every single night except
for the first night.

And that is because our
children who are very used to.

Getting into bed around like seven 15.

Mm-hmm.

Didn't get into bed till like
almost 10 in a new Was it that late?

It was that late in a new environment.

Yeah.

After being in the car after school.

So like, yeah, we went straight from like
car to brand, new hotel to hotel room,

to let's go to bed, unpack and let's, you
know, and um, so Wilson did not do great

the first night he was sleeping with me.

He would keep waking
up and be like, daddy.

We're in the hotel, daddy,
can we wake up Daddy?

And he's just like, all like,
buddy, please go to sleep.

Well finally around like five
30, he was like clearly not

gonna be going back to sleep.

Yeah.

And he was getting louder and I did
not want him to wake everyone else up.

So me and what turned from a low,
which was waking up all throughout the

night and like the booty crack of dawn.

We got dressed and just
left the hotel room.

Mm-hmm.

And meandered around the,
the grand hotel grounds.

We went into the, what he
called, he called the lobby

of the hotel, the Hobby Lobby.

Yeah.

So we went to the Hobby Lobby and
they had coloring pages and we

colored a page together and then we
went, sorry, our washing machine.

I know our, I don't know
if they can hear that.

I don't think they can, but if you,
I know some of you have to have

that Samsung washer that just like
does like a jingle when it's done.

It's currently going off right now,
and then they have a pier, uh, 'cause

it's like on the water on the bay.

And so like we went down the pier
and on the fence at the pier,

like literally like 10 feet away
from us was this giant blue heron.

And Wilson was just
like, like jaw dropped.

Eyes wide.

Yeah.

And we just sat there and watched all
the birds and the heron and like all

these giant pelicans just flying through.

And we had such a slow.

Peaceful, delightful.

Little morning, just me and him.

Mm-hmm.

Watching the sun come up
and it was so awesome.

Yeah.

So that's one of my highlights.

Do you have a highlight
from the trip, Ms. King?

I mean, it was just all great.

Like it was all great.

We just went into it with, we are on their
schedule and we're gonna let them kind of

take the lead of what they wanna do, what
they, that's feel like we have been most

successful on vacations when we do that.

Mm-hmm.

Yep.

And so it was just, we woke up,
we did the breakfast, we went

back, we got ready for the pool.

We did.

The pool, the beach, the
pool, or like pool and beach.

Pool and beach are all together and beach.

Or you know, you would go out to
the bay and there was, you know,

sand for the kids to play in.

And then when they wanted to get back
in the pool, we'd get in the pool

and you know, we would eat our lunch.

By the pool.

By the pool, yeah.

And it was like, oh, it's nap time.

So we all went back to the hotel room
and we all took two hours out of our day.

I say, rinse some sand off and get in bed.

Took a shower, went to Right.

And it's like we can't
leave the hotel room.

Yeah.

With them in it and go do something.

So we were just like, nap.

We took two hour nap.

We're taking naps today.

Two nap.

Then we'd wake up and
we'd go back to the pool.

Yeah.

That was awesome.

And beach.

And then, you know, it was
just, they had so much fun.

We would go to the lobby and
get like a little cookie after

they woke up from their naps.

Mm-hmm.

And we would get coffee and just, it was.

So relaxing, I mean, truly.

Mm-hmm.

Because it was just, we could
walk anywhere we wanted to, we

didn't have to leave for food.

It was just truly like, joyful for
the kids and just it, it wasn't

like we were schlepping everywhere.

No, it was, we literally were,
we were there and that's where

we were at the whole time.

The whole time.

And like, and they were
perfectly entertained for it.

Being South Alabama at the beginning
or the end of August, labor

Day, it really wasn't that hot.

The weather was.

I mean, wonderful.

Yeah.

Not really humid.

It was not mm-hmm.

Oppressive, you know, it was
just, no, it was super nice.

I don't think it could
have gone any better.

It was a, I mean, I don't
look at that and think, wow.

Yep.

Minus Wilson, almost getting
stabbed in the eye with a stick.

Yeah.

It was a fantastic trip.

It was, but I mean, it was, it was.

It's our happy place.

We took family photos while we were there.

Great.

Can't wait to get those back.

So Great.

I'm so excited.

But yeah, it was wonderful.

It was wonderful.

I think the, the only other thing
I will mention is that it is so

interesting to watch two things.

One, it's so interesting to watch
kids make friends with other kids.

Mm-hmm.

Like, they are just like, when
Jesus talks about like, having

the, like, being like children.

Mm-hmm.

Um, it is so interesting to watch kids
in this environment and you, I feel

like I get to understand that passage a
little bit more because it's just like.

Pure innocence, uh, like friendliness,
like openness to like, just throw

yourself into something with a stranger
and like figure something out together.

And then I think it's just
always interesting the fa like

we were around the same families.

Like yeah, when you go to the grand,
you're like, you're always at the pool.

So like you're at the pool or you're
around the grounds and you see the same

families with the same kids, and like your
kids will end up playing with their kids.

So then you end up like
having these like mm-hmm.

Initially awkward conversations that
then turn, by the time you're leaving,

you're like, oh yeah, it's this family
and this family and this family.

And like you're kind
like, yeah, pseudo friend.

Like you're like cordial with each
other 'cause your kids are playing.

And I, I always think that's funny
on like vacations, how you can.

Sure.

Just kind of like make vacation
buddies for, for a trip.

Yeah, I, that was definitely, I love what
you said about like the innocence of that,

because I think more so for our 6-year-old
Palmer just is like, hi, you know?

Yeah.

Oh, Palmer.

Like they're a, I'm
Palmer, what's your name?

And know?

Well, so like most of the time it
was, then there's the occasional

time where it's like she'd go and
be like, hi, my name's Palmer.

What's your name?

And the kid would just kind of like
look at her and walk away and I'm like.

Aw man.

That kind kind of hurts my heart a little
bit, but she like, she couldn't care less.

She just brush it.

She, she just will go, Hmm, and
just go back to doing her thing.

Like, I don't care.

That's awesome.

Oh, man.

But it was so good.

The kids are ready to go back.

Oh, they, we were leaving like they were.

Heartbroken to leave like the Grand Ho.

I think somebody said this was
better than Disney and I was like,

Palmer loves this more than Disney.

Yeah.

I was like, this week I was like, Hey,
we should go back to the grand sometime.

It was so fun.

And they were like, yeah.

And then Wilson was like, Disney.

And I was like, yeah,
this thing was all right.

But no, it was, it was awesome.

It was great.

Well needed, well timed perfectly.

So much family time was absolutely.

10 outta 10.

10 out of like 11 outta 10.

Best family vacation, I think by far.

Oh yeah.

But I think we both agreed that
like we could not have done

this any earlier, sick earlier.

We kind of hit the minimum age.

We hit the stride of like
only one was in diapers.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Only one is still like in
a pack and play situation.

Right.

And Yep, yep, yep.

The other two are not
that thrown off by like.

Palmer and I sharing a
bed was not crazy, weird.

You know, like it was.

Yep, yep, yep.

It was a good, good time.

Well, we went from that to
speaking of our 6-year-old Yeah.

And sleeping arrangements.

Mm-hmm.

Uh, two nights ago, Palmer like
cries out in the middle of the night,

daddy, and she always cries, mama.

Mm-hmm.

Always, always, mama.

And so first I was like, something
must be real wrong if it's daddy

who's getting the call right now.

Yeah.

So I hop out of bed and I go in there
and she just has this like heartbroken.

Like fear on her face.

Mm-hmm.

And I'm like, honey, what's wrong?

She, she was like, I had a nightmare.

Can I come sleep with you?

Aw.

And I'm like, immediately, absolutely.

Like that face.

Like she called for me.

She was so sad and like, so
scared and I was like, I would do

anything to protect you right now.

You absolutely can come
snuggle in bed with me.

And so like that night we had a
little bed buddy and she was like

white on rice, like all on top of me.

'cause she was so scared.

Normally that would bother me to
no end because I need some sleep.

But it couldn't bo it couldn't have
bo like I had like a sliver of bed

and I didn't care at all that night.

Yeah.

Um, but the reason I bring that up mm-hmm.

Is not to complain about Palmer
sleeping with us or having a

nightmare, but I want to talk
about what happened the next night.

Yeah.

Alison, why don't you, why
don't you share what happened?

Because I think this was, well,
I think that this is like one of

the perfect examples of how the.

You, you don't have to Bible beat.

Yeah.

You don't have to force.

Mm-hmm.

Uh, you don't have to force this
type of talk into every little thing.

Mm-hmm.

But just having it be a part
of like your, your life.

Mm-hmm.

M makes it really easy.

Yeah.

And I, I, the reason I say that is I just
wanna like lay context for why I think

it's so great the way that this happened.

Yeah.

But why don't you go ahead.

Well, she was upset.

She had her nightmare stayed
with us, and then next night,

you know, it's time to go to bed.

Mm-hmm.

And you could see it like she was okay.

And then like the anxiety of like,
well what if I have another bedroom?

Yeah.

She was, she was scared to go to sleep.

And I mean, we.

That's totally normal for her age.

And you know, I had read
something, um, a while ago.

Mm-hmm.

Um, talking about if you couldn't
sleep, and I guess, you know, this

would be like for adults, but if you
couldn't sleep instead of grabbing

your phone to scroll or, I don't know.

I just, sometimes I'm really bad
about in the middle of the night.

My mind can just wander that
if you ever have trouble

sleeping, just sit there and say.

Thank you, God, and just, just say it
your head, your many blessings, your head.

Just count your many blessings and
just whatever you can think of.

No matter how big, no matter how small.

Mm-hmm.

No matter how ridiculous you think it
might be, just say thank you for it.

Right.

And you'll eventually fall asleep.

Are you still gonna wake up
exhausted in the morning?

Of course.

But you'll wake up with a better mindset.

Mindset and a better attitude.

Yeah.

I really like that.

So she was scared and I was like,
well, Palmer, let me tell you what

I do when I have had a bad dream.

And I was like, I still
have bad dreams sometimes.

You know?

Like that's not anything that's, you know.

Like I wanted her to feel like it wasn't
just her, that that happens to everybody.

And I said, what I do is I just start
saying, thank you, God, and just start.

Rattling off things that I'm thankful
for, no matter how silly they may seem.

And so I was like, let's do that together.

And so the first night it was
basically me just saying, right, you

know, thank you God for the grasp.

Thank you God for Palmer's sloth, Luby.

Thank you God for, and just
naming everything, right.

Setting an example.

And then I said, and you know, the
last thing I do, I said, and I do this

every night, I pray before I go to bed.

Mm-hmm.

And I'm.

Ask, you know, please watch over us.

Keep us safe.

You know, I thank him for what
happened that day, and she looked

at me and was like, can you ask
God to give me a good dream?

And I was like, absolutely.

We can ask God for anything, you know?

Mm-hmm.

And so we set our prayer together.

She seemed at peace, you know?

Right.

And she goes to sleep, made
it through the whole night.

Um, and so.

10, I guess it would be tonight.

No, it was tonight.

While we were, we, Palmer decided
to read the bedtime story.

Mm-hmm.

Because she's gotten
really into reading lately.

Mm-hmm.

And is very good at it.

Yeah.

And so she wanted to read a bedtime story
for the boys and we finished up that.

Mm-hmm.

And she just looks over at Ali and says.

Mommy, you'll never guess what
I dreamed about last night.

And Ali goes, what?

I dreamed it was your birthday.

I woke up this morning and I told
dad, I said, it's Mommy's birthday.

And he said, no, it's not.

And so, but then she said that to you
and you're like, oh, that's great.

And then it like took a second and then
you looked at her and you're like, Hey,

yeah, like you didn't have a bad dream.

God answered our prayer.

You know, like he heard it goes.

You're right.

Can we do that again tonight?

Yeah.

And I heard that and it
just melted my heart.

Yeah, because it was just like, kudos.

If we could take negative points, you
would get a negative point for this one.

No, I think it's just, this was just such
a good, like this was like if there was a

way to bring Jesus into our kids' hearts.

Mm-hmm.

I want it to be like that.

Yeah.

You know, I think that.

When it all boils down to it,
you and I have totally had this

conversation for years now, right.

Of like, it is so easy to let things
slide because you're tired or because

it takes effort and you don't wanna
have to put in the effort, but like

the, even the smallest things, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's so easy.

These smallest things to
just be like, you'll be okay.

Go to sleep, you'll be fine.

Go to sleep.

Yeah.

To take the time and the effort just to.

Something little.

And you know, tonight we did it all again.

We, she started rattling off the
things she was thankful for tonight.

I love that.

And we went back and, and forth.

What's one, what's one
thing that she said?

Um, she was thankful for her teacher.

Then she said, uh oh, cookies.

I was like, yeah, yeah girl.

I'm thankful for cookies.

Absolutely thankful for cookies
in this family for sure.

So, you know, it, it
was, it's an ice cream.

It's nice.

And I wanted.

I could tell.

I mean, it wasn't a magical
thing, but like this morning

she woke up in a better mood.

She did.

She definitely did.

Maybe in the morning I move.

We'll find out.

It's a Saturday.

We'll see.

We'll see.

She'll be pumped.

So yeah.

Want some Dino, Dana?

All right.

I can't even, I can't
even with that right now.

Can't even now.

Please don't even, don't, don't stop.

Alright.

Next on the list, I want to do
something that you mentioned.

Okay.

I'm scared.

I don't, before we started, ally
said, well, oh yeah, I have a segment.

And I said, I sure did.

Ally, you used the word segment.

You're getting into it.

At least I didn't use the word bit.

It's a bit okay.

Oh, a bit is a bit.

When a segment is something you do
over and over, then it's a bit No,

it would be like a recurring segment.

A portion, if you will.

Okay.

So a bit bit's a
recurring joke then maybe.

Yeah.

Alright, so us saying pH, it's been
a week is a bit, there's your merch.

Woo.

It's been a week.

It's been a week for all four of you.

Or we can put it on a half so you can
cover up your grays like Will does with

Abso, we, we really should do a hat and
we need to do like a custom embroidered

hat and we just gotta figure out the
perfect phrase to put on the hat.

I do think no one asked.

I think that feels like.

A lot for this PO dunks.

This is not a Podunk setup.

This look how great this looks.

This is a Podunk setup.

I mean, we do need to fill that up.

This needs something that
needs to get filled up.

This needs something.

No, this doesn't need stuff.

As long as we got the middle part filled
up because we are the something over here.

Okay.

And it's got the vertical
lines, so we're good.

But we need to figure out or this to go
what's going in the middle or something.

I don't know.

Something needs to be figured
out in the middle here for sure.

All four of you.

And I'm gonna, maybe
there's five of you now.

Who knows?

You can send your suggestions to Will.

Ooh, ally, asking for suggestions, and
then I'll say, put 'em in the trap.

I'll do what I want.

No, I'm just kidding.

All right.

Ally said, I've got a segment, and she
said, I think it would be really fun.

It's a challenge.

Dumb, dumb, dumb.

We need a soundboard.

I know.

Do, do, do, do that.

No, that sounds hopeful.

It needs to be like dumb, dumb, dumb.

That's like law and order.

It is like law and order.

All right.

Okay.

She said I want us to ha answer.

She said there's 15 of them.

We're not gonna do 15.

We're gonna do we and we're gonna just
keep doing this if, if we like it.

Two questions.

We're gonna write our answers
on, uh, the back of these cards.

We're gonna ask it.

And we have to try to guess what the
other one wrote for their answer.

If we get it right, good job.

Congratulations.

You know your spouse, if you get it,
if you get it wrong, you get a point.

Such a space.

This is my chance.

This is your chance.

And here's the deal.

We are not going to try
to trick each other No.

To give the other ones points
we were gonna answer truthfully.

Pinky.

Pinky, the Sacred Promise.

Okay.

All right, so Alison.

Do you have the questions?

'Cause this was your idea.

I don't have any questions.

I sure do.

All right.

Question number Numero uno.

Question one.

What's my least favorite household chore?

Ooh, easy.

Easy.

Okay, so you are answering
what's your least?

I'm answering what's mine?

Mine.

And I will write down mine.

And you're answering yours.

And then I have to try to
guess what you wrote down.

Right.

Yes.

Okay.

All right.

Oh man, what do I, Ooh,

okay.

All right.

I've got mine.

I know.

Now I feel like.

Oh no.

All right.

I'm gonna answer yours 'cause
Yeah, I got this in the bag.

Yeah.

You got this one on laundry?

Yeah.

It's most of laundry.

If you hate, you can't see
this, but hate laundry.

I hate laundry.

You hate laundry so much.

I'm good at laundry.

I do a load of laundry, laundry, laundry.

I do a load of laundry a day,
but I, I'm great at folding it.

Hate laundry because it is not
a task that I can completely.

Finish, there is nothing, there is no end.

There is no luck.

That will set Ali off more than if
we just folded a bunch of laundry,

put it away, and then I take my
clothes off to go shower and just

drop it in the dirty clothes hamper.

I hate that, that like it's to
the point of he is no longer

allowed to use our hamper.

Just go put it in the washing machine
so I can do the load the next day.

We've literally changed our entire
laundry routine system to wear.

We wash a load every day so that
nothing ever goes in a hamper.

Yeah, pretty much.

And you know, our week has like gotten
bad when our hamper has clothes in it.

Yeah.

But a ham on, there were
clothes in the hamper this week.

There were All right.

But I just, that jingle you just heard.

I took care of it.

Alright.

Anyway.

Okay.

All right.

Let's see if Alison can answer it.

Okay.

I think she should be able to.

I have, but I have a good feeling.

I might, I think you might
get me, I've got two.

I might get her on this.

This one.

Got that.

I'm sitting here not because
I'm trying to deceive you.

I've got two that I'm sitting here.

Okay.

And I'll give you a little leeway if
you, I think you might answer one way and

I'll give you a little leeway if you do.

Okay.

So I am going to say,

oh.

Oh, I might as well go ahead
and give myself a point.

Just say it, Alison.

I think it's gonna be like cleaning out
the refrigerator or something like that.

Mm. And then I had another path.

Okay.

Like I had two very, two
very different paths.

Yeah.

But the second one, you don't
do that much because, okay.

What the, you do complain
have when you have to do it.

What's the second?

Okay.

What's the second one?

I mean literally any
cleaning is all of it.

'cause you get so mad when you
have to clean the bathrooms.

You hate cleaning bathrooms.

I do hate cleaning bathrooms.

You are in the ballpark, however.

Yeah, I know it.

We're giving you a point on this one.

Yeah.

'cause you did not nail it.

Okay.

Sweeping.

Oh yeah, I should have said that.

Yeah.

That is the one that you get me
all the, you literally just sweep,

which the reason why it sucks is
because we have some tiny children.

Yeah.

In.

I can tell you we could, we could
lick the floors clean and they

be spotless and we have one meal
and it looks like we did nothing.

Yeah, but you don't ever sweep.

And this is stuff everywhere
because it's stupid.

But you don't, it's so stupid.

Why sweep when the kids are
just gonna eat another meal?

Okay.

And mess it right up.

But I have to do our laundry.

Even though you're gonna mess it back.

I didn't say it was wrong.

I just said, I don't like it.

But you don't even do that chore.

It's not true.

That's one of, I've swept many a time,
many of times over our entire marriage.

Okay.

Okay.

Whatever.

Because I don't like it roll or rolls.

I don't like it.

Okay.

All right.

Question number two, Ms. King.

This one, I don't feel like it should
be asked, but it's on the list.

I'm gonna do it anyways.

Ooh, why?

Well, why do you feel like
it shouldn't be asked?

It's a slam dunk for both of us.

Like we, I can not write this down.

You could not write it down, and we could
absolutely just be done and call it a day.

It's not a challenge.

Okay, so do we skip it and go
to one that is a challenge?

Like do we just go to the next
one or do we test to see if it

is a slam of a dunk as we think?

I don't know.

I'm not making that decision.

You can.

All right.

We're gonna go with the one that
Ali thinks is a slam dunk and we

either, we are either gonna nail
it or we are not, and it's gonna

be real embarrassing if we don't.

Okay.

Ladies and gentlemen, we're
gonna do this next week.

This is M number five.

There's a bit.

We're going to do this next
week anyway, so if this is a

slam dunk, come back for more.

Alright, hit it.

How do I like my coffee in the morning?

Okay.

When you said slam dunk, I don't know if
I've heard any more of an understatement

than that phrase related to that question.

I'm not even writing it down.

I'm writing it.

Ooh.

I'm writing actually, you're gonna write
how you like your coffee in the morning.

That's so silly.

You're gonna be like.

A turd.

I'm not gonna super specific.

I'm not.

I'm not.

I am.

Let me just, I'll try to give
you a, uh, uh, some help here.

Are we talk like we are not talking here.

This answer is how do I like my coffee
in the morning, not, how do I take it?

Most of the time.

This?

No.

What this means if I, if I had
to choose No, no, no, no, no.

If I had to choose exactly how I got
my coffee with zero effort involved,

no, no, not what would I choose.

That's not what, no.

I take this to mean every
day run in the mill life.

How do you like your
coffee in the morning?

Uhuh, we, we are not making
this some dream scenario here.

This is not a dream scenario.

We're not going outta control.

This is just like a no.

This is, is not.

In a perfect world, if I had to
choose and there were no rules, no.

This is not that hard either.

This is still a slam dunk.

No, no, but this is my answer.

No, it's not my answer.

Because you're not, not
interpreting the Correct.

The question correctly.

Your interpretation of the question is
different than my interpretation, Alison.

Oh, fine.

I'll make you answer both 'cause you can.

Okay.

So easy.

Alison likes her coffee, Val.

Mm-hmm.

Mild roast.

Mm-hmm.

Eight ounces with two and a half
tablespoons of Chobani hazelnut creamer.

Yeah, you are missing one crucial
piece in the white Nice mug.

One more.

Oh, but I wouldn't give you a point
for it because that's exactly how

I like my coffee in the morning.

Because that's what the question was.

Hand delivered to you at bed by me
without you having to get out of it.

Yep.

Boom.

Nailed it.

See, I could find it.

See, I mean, do you like
your coffee in the morning?

Yes.

Hand-delivered by my husband.

Tell you Don, wanna get outta
the bed, make your coffee.

I'm not gonna say when I'm going to drop
this, but I may or may not have at almost

double digit screenshots of a single emoji
text message from Alison in the morning.

Don't give receipt of
anything I haven't gotten.

It is not ever since school Ali's been
back their goodness, but Summer Ali.

Used to just send me a coffee
emoji when she'd wake up in the

morning to let me know it was
time to bring her her morning cup.

And I've got, I've got receipts.

Alright, whatever.

I want you to answer both, you can
answer the run of the mill one, but

then I want you to answer the one
that I You're, you're the same way.

You want the val eight ounce.

Yep.

Yep, yep.

And your.

Two tablespoons correct.

Of Chobani French vanilla
creamer, like Correct.

That is my at home.

Right?

That's your at home.

But home, if I choose what kind of
coffee I get in the morning, and it's

like, I mean like if you're going to
Starbucks, you would rather always

have an iced coffee with classic
cream and sugar cream and whatever.

Classic and half and half.

Yeah.

Yes.

That is my preferred If you're going
to, if I got to choose my coffee every

single day and it was just as easy as
waking up and making a coffee at home.

Yeah.

I would always get iced coffee with
plastic in half and half for sure.

I need to figure out how to
make a good iced coffee at home.

But that's just effort that, yeah.

So there you go.

Not gonna lie, slammed on.

I've been looking at other methods
for making coffee and I want to so bad

to get into it, but I just don't, I
don't have No, we don't have get in me.

We don't have that.

And the reason I don't have it in me
is because I'm so stressed lately.

And I have not handled it well.

Yeah.

And this week it came to, this
feels like a heavy topic for however

long we are into this ramble.

But it, it, we don't have
to make it super heavy.

Um, well stressed everybody.

I'm stressed.

That's why he wears a hat.

Been stressed.

This new job has stressed me out
because there's timelines, there's

like new things that I've had to learn.

It's a big company.

I put a lot of this on myself too,
you know, like it is not like.

I don't necessarily have somebody
like breathing down my neck who's

like, will, will, will, will.

It's just like I'm a firm believer of
if there are expectations for something,

then I'm gonna put my 100% effort into
meeting or exceeding those expectations.

You definitely always take
the above and beyond approach.

I do.

I do.

And that is not what I actually
wanna talk about because Interesting.

That's just life.

You know?

Like life is stressful.

Mm-hmm.

What I do wanna talk about is I have
not handled that stress well and I have

dropped the ball as a spouse and a parent.

No,

no ma'am.

No ma'am.

And we're gonna talk about it for
a minute because stars, this is.

I would say,

I say what I wanted.

Alright.

Ali said what she wanted this week
related to this and I needed to hear it.

This is a recurring, um, bit, bit
of our, of our marriage, of our

relationship, where I am like 100% on it.

I am super dad.

I'm super husband.

Gimme a sec. Oh, okay.

And I am, I am able to be like
fully invested in what I think

is most important, my family.

Mm-hmm.

And my relationship with Ali.

Mm-hmm.

And I feel like I'm on top of the
world and I got it all under control.

And it's great.

And she's happy and her kids are
happy and we're all so happy.

And then what happens is some
stress comes up in my life

related to work or something.

And.

The way that I handle stress,
I handle stress very well.

Mm-hmm.

For the thing that I am stressed about.

Yes.

Because I put on blinders to everything
else and I just go like Terminator mode

on the thing that I'm stressed about and
I crush it and I knock it outta the park.

To the detriment of everything else,
and that is something that I have.

You are being now finally really
hard on yourself for something that,

here's the deal, here's the deal.

I'm not being hard on myself.

I am just owning my own personality,
and I think you have to be

able to do that to be better.

Yeah.

In the future, and I think the reason
why I wanna talk about this on the

podcast is because, wow, guys, you're
getting some, some good stuff here.

The re Well, the reason is, is
because like, this is what I

think our podcast should be.

Mm-hmm.

Is that like, I don't want to
gloss, like I don't want to

tell just the fun trip stories.

Yeah.

Or like, oh, the trip was hard
because blah, blah, blah, whatever.

Yeah.

Like, I also want to not shy
away from like realities of Yeah.

Figuring out marriage and life.

Mm-hmm.

Like we have a fantastic marriage.

Mm-hmm.

But part of having a fantastic marriage
is also digging into when things are

not fantastic because no marriage
is 100% fantastic all the time.

It is fantastic through hard work.

Even when things go wrong.

Mm-hmm.

And one or both of us
are not like, doing well.

Yeah.

This week that was me because you have
been super stressed about school and

work and all the stress that I've been
going through has been, has then put

every other stress in our life because
I put blinders on on your shoulders.

Mm-hmm.

And because I have blinders, I
have not checked in with you.

I have not acknowledged the
work that you have put in.

I have not acknowledged the effort you go
to to make sure that I can put blinders

on for the things that I need to focus on.

Mm-hmm.

And so, I don't know, like I
just wanted to bring that up.

I wanted to talk about it.

I wanted to own it.

Yeah.

Because you sat me down this week and
said, Hey man, this is what's going on.

And I said, you are absolutely right.

I'm so sorry.

Mm-hmm.

Um, and.

I need, like that is a recurring
thing that happens in our marriage.

Wow.

And it is a very much a thing where
it's like, okay, Will's on top of it.

Everything's great.

Oh no, some things are coming up.

Now he's getting distracted.

Oh, now Will's very distracted.

Oh, Will's like very focused on this
other thing and like things are like going

off the rails and he's not, which like,
noticing things, timeout for two seconds.

You are allowed to be focused
and stressed and things focused.

Hang on, hang on.

Hang.

I'll let you have your mi
I'll let you have your time.

What was the Kanye like?

We need like a clock, like a chest clock.

We do.

What was the Kanye like or
the, I'm gonna let you finish,

but I'm gonna let you finish.

But, or, uh, that episode of New Girl
where it's the feeling stick or whatever,

you can only talk if you're holding that.

Okay.

But it is in no way, shape, or
form a problem to be focused

and feel the stress of.

This is still a very new job for you.

You know, navigating that, those
expectations there and figuring

things out and it's not a problem.

Being focused on work and then doing that.

I think where we had the friction
came from, you know, we both agree

there's give and takes and when
you're in a season of this needs.

A little bit more of me right now,
it, I have no problem, you know,

picking up things that I need to hold
more of so you can have more space

to do what you need to do for work.

That's never an issue.

Um, I think where we both had to
like, have a harsh reality check

was like, Hey man, like you are
not the only one here in this house

right now that's really stressed.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

And really, mm-hmm.

Like.

Yes, you have a lot going
on, but that does not mean,

because Will has a lot going on.

Nobody else does either.

Mm-hmm.

And I think that's where
it was like, what do we do?

How do we navigate this when like mm-hmm.

I'm fresh at the start
of a new school year.

There's things that I'm have
on my plate that I've got to

give my attention and focus.

Mm-hmm.

And then throw on.

Three kids daily life
and all of that stuff.

It's a lot.

A lot.

It is a lot.

It, it was one of those things of
like, look, yeah, we gotta figure

something out because we're now both
drowning and we can't both be drowning.

Yes.

We gotta figure out the
balance, the give and take.

Mm-hmm.

And that is Ally's very good at like
kicking me in the butt to make me like

realize, oh, will, like, you need to take
more control over your mental mm-hmm.

And your like.

Actual schedule?

Um, yeah, because like, I think I
just get into these like, uh, spirals

of 100% effort on something that
doesn't actually need that much.

Mm-hmm.

Attention.

Like, it doesn't have to have all of that.

Like I'm giving it more than it should.

Mm-hmm.

And I'm like, I'm a, like we talked about
like firm believer that it should be

getting a lot of my effort and attention.

Yeah.

But there still need to be like,
what happens is like the boundaries.

Um, they don't just get blurred.

They just get completely ignored.

Yeah.

And like the, that was a
pro, like, that was what was

happening and it was a problem.

And the boundaries between, and I
think that's harder when you're like

at home because it's like, at any
moment if I think of something and

I am like, oh, I figured it out.

Mm. Or I like got the solution,
like at any moment I can

just go do that and fix it.

Um.

And I think that's tough.

Well, 'cause then it's like, oh,
at any point I could get just

a little less stressed think
by taking care of this thing.

'cause it's, oh, it's just right there.

It's right there.

And I think that's what's so interesting.

And I mean, I don't work from
home, you know, I, I leave, I

go to work and it doesn't mean
I don't carry that home with me.

Believe me, there are things
that I carry home all the time.

I don't think that ever goes
away in some, in some what?

Is an added layer to it is when you
do work from home and it's mm-hmm.

There, there is no line of
work home because it's all one

space you can just take mm-hmm.

Four steps into your office and
then like you said, you could

be a little less stressed.

So it's, uh, trying to be
like present, present or like,

you don't need to be that.

Accessible or, you know, 24 7.

Right, exactly.

Kind of deal.

Exactly.

And I think, and I could
see how that's hard.

Holy moly.

If that was my, my life.

Like, yeah.

I mean, not like a temptation, but like,
I, no, it's a, it's 100% a temptation.

It's very much a, like a dopamine thing.

Like, it's like a, it's like
a chemical thing almost.

I get it.

Because it's like, oh,
I could answer like.

There's this, this good feeling
that like, oh, I solved that thing.

Yeah.

Before anyone thought I would get it done,
because I was able to put just a little

more time because I figured it out here.

So I did it.

So the next, when everyone got on
the next morning and it was fixed,

they're like, oh wow, good job Will.

Or like when somebody's asking, or when
somebody's asking questions and they

need like answers, you know, like I could
just wait till like regular work hours.

Yeah.

But there's like, there's a little
dopamine hit when you're the one who like.

Jumps in whenever they need help
and can be the one who helps them.

I'd be interested to know if
that's a you thing or, oh, I,

but you're not the only one.

It's definitely a me thing.

At least.

Could be more the work
from home tech community.

I don't know what
Interesting, interesting.

I mean, this is a big discussion.

It's, I've always thought it's
never been a problem because it

really hasn't been a problem.

In other roles.

Mm-hmm.

But I don't know, there's something
about being at this like big new company.

Mm-hmm.

It's, it's more where
it's, where it's like,

I don't know, like maybe
it's because there's like.

More value.

I think I know what it's, Ooh, hit me
and then I'll tell you what I think.

But I wanna hear what you think
I, because you generally have a

pretty good read on my personality.

Craig, if you're listening to
this, Craig doesn't listen to this.

Craig.

Craig, you're gonna, no, I'm just kidding.

Um, I think will.

Oh gracious.

I don't think these people need
this like, unfiltered thought,

hit, hit 'em because we literally
have not, I talked about this.

I don't care.

Lay it on me.

I think everyone, I'm getting
this live right when you are.

So let's all brace together.

I don't know, I think we,
we don't cut anything out.

Jobs.

Mm-hmm.

It's been a smaller pond, so
it was easier to grow into a

bigger fish and a smaller pond.

Okay.

I think this is a huge
pond you are in now.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

And you were used to the growth of
becoming a bigger fish in a smaller pond.

Mm-hmm.

And so you're trying to.

Keep that up and keep going.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Like grow into the big fish, but
like, it requires a lot more effort.

Effort and a lot to fill the space.

Yeah.

Ah, you know, that's exactly
what I was gonna say.

That is that I think that's exactly it.

I, I, I've always worked
at smaller companies.

It was a lot.

I just like helping and
feeling like, oh, if.

Who do we need to, like who can we go to?

Mm-hmm.

I love that answer to be will
professionally, because that means I'm

doing a good job and people like working
with me and trust working with me.

Mm-hmm.

And rely on me.

I love that.

That's why I love and that's why your
wife saying you're gonna rely on the

guy that can't close the cabinet.

Shut your face.

This is who you go to face.

This is why I love, like, also
why I love parenting and like.

I, I've always wanted to be like a
dad and like I love being married

and all this, like, I love being
the one that people rely on because

there's a lot to unpack there.

Sure.

But we're not gonna do that.

We can dig into, we can
dig into that later.

We can dig into that another time.

But I, I really like that need help
with, and it is very like, you're right.

At places that I've worked before, I
was specifically hired in roles where

like that was the expectation of me.

Mm-hmm.

And so it was very easy to do that.

Mm-hmm.

Um, but yeah, I think that's
why it, that it's harder at this

company because it's so big.

That doesn't really happen.

Yeah.

It's definitely in, well also the
problem is that it's happening enough

to where I'm noticing it working.

It's just taking like a lot more effort
and a lot more time and a lot more

things being done to get to that point.

And that is I need to
change my time horizon.

I think stretch.

I think I need to slow, slow, do
soul searching over that stretch.

I need to stretch.

I need to stretch my, I need
to like give myself some space,

some time to work into it.

I don't need to make it happen.

The first three months that I'm working
here, it's not even been three months.

So, yeah, anyhow, but we can move
on from this, but yeah, we, we

can, I, I just wanted to tie it in.

I wanna bring it up.

I wanted to address it.

Yeah.

I want to let people know that this
is like, stuff that, like we do go

through, we do and we work through it
and we honestly, like, since we talked

about it, things have been like, I feel
like things have been way better for

me personally because there is nothing.

That is a higher priority
than how you feel about me.

Like you, I can go from like
as long as I think we're good.

Mm-hmm.

I can do anything.

Yeah.

But as long as I don't
feel like we're good.

Mm-hmm.

The only thing I can think or focus
about is like how you don't think

we're good and how I need to fix that.

So the moment you like acknowledge Yeah.

And bring it up in a way that's
like, we cannot ignore this.

Mm-hmm.

Or like.

Go on without addressing this.

Like my whole demeanor shifts and
so like that's what happened this

week and I have course corrected
and I thank you for doing that.

If there was a problem, yo, I'll solved.

You definitely solved it.

No, we solved it together, but
you made it to where we had to

solve it and I appreciate that.

Yeah.

Anyway.

Alright.

We should probably wrap up.

We you have a, you have
a ball to get ready for.

Stop it.

Ah, Alison Ali's going without me.

Yeah, somebody's gotta watch the kids.

Me leaving me at home.

I don't even get to get dressed up.

I'm so sorry.

The audacity.

Are you flying to California next week?

I don't know what you're talking about.

I'm definitely not California.

Speaking of which, I need to
finish all of that stuff anyway.

Okay.

I did not say that to make
you feel stressed tomorrow.

I'm not stressed at all.

Any who but Ali's going to a ball.

I am Cinderella.

Over here.

I'm gonna have a ball.

Glass slippers, little black dress.

Nope.

Looking.

My cute.

That's for sure.

Stop it.

No.

Going with a friend.

Going with a friend.

My best friend.

We're gonna have.

Y'all are gonna have a good time.

It is gonna be fun.

A good time.

Are y'all gonna do dinner before?

Did y'all decide?

Uh, no.

We never got to that decision.

It's very hard to make
Grace make a decision.

No, it's not.

It was just, there's when they come
over and all, there's five kids

running around and it's also true.

It's a bit chaotic,
but No, it's wonderful.

But gonna have a good time.

Y'all are gonna have a great time.

Can't wait for y'all, y'all to be
a couple of Cinderellas at a ball.

How fun.

I give us to like, balls are real things.

Nine 30, just in case y'all are
wondering, people actually do

hold balls and people go see them.

Can you people what?

We're gonna wrap it on that one.

Beast.

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